[FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH] News: Removal of libndi

[Michael Niedermayer]

On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 05:41:31PM -0400, Ronald S. Bultje wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 4:15 PM Gyan <ffmpeg at gyani.pro> wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> > On 21-03-2019 01:32 AM, Marton Balint wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, 20 Mar 2019, Jean-Baptiste Kempf wrote:
> > >
> > >> On Wed, 20 Mar 2019, at 20:52, Marton Balint wrote:
> > >>> On Wed, 20 Mar 2019, Jean-Baptiste Kempf wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> > On Wed, 20 Mar 2019, at 19:34, Marton Balint wrote:
> > >>> >> As I described in similar threads before, whether or not the
> > >>> project want >> closed source support for NDI is a subjective issue,
> > >>> please start a vote >> about the removal of libndi if you want to
> > >>> seek this through.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > The removal of libndi is actually done and committed.
> > >>>
> > >>> That is just sad an unfair.
> > >>
> > >> Sad, maybe.
> > >> Unfair, I disagree. If NDI wants to be in, they know what to do.
> > >
> > > It is unfair towards the people who expressied disapproval, yet this
> > > change was committed without neither vote nor consensus.
> >
> > +1. This was a political decision, not a technical one. A formal(-ish)
> > survey should have happened on the ML.
> >
> 
> I agree we need a formal vote on this. I would like to set a wider project
> policy w.r.t. closed-source software integration, this is just one instance
> of a more general issue.

I think there should have been a vote before pushing a commit as there where
FFmpeg developers objecting to it.
Ignoring people causes nothing good. Had there been a vote people would be
alot less upset about it as everyones oppinion would be counted equally

It makes me unhappy that one FFmpeg developer apparently decided to leave
the project already because of this. 
I think we should fix this, make a proper policy, with a proper vote
and then hopefully noone feels the need to leave.


> 
> Who wants to organize it?

Thilo organized the last vote, maybe he wants to do it ?
but if noone else wants to do it i can do one too if people want and
there is consensus who can vote
If i search for "open source vote free" on google it points to 
vote.heliosvoting.org as first hit
this seems rather basic but for simple yes/no questions it could work
maybe someone has a better suggestion we could use for more complex future
cases that is multiple choice votes in teh future (schulze STV / CPO-STV
for multiwinner or ScottishSTV (used by SPI), schulze method (used by debian)
for one winner of N choices would be nice to have)  

Thanks

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