[FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 1/2] avcodec, avformat: deprecate anything related to side data merging

[Michael Niedermayer]

On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 01:45:40PM +0100, wm4 wrote:
> On Fri, 17 Mar 2017 13:32:40 +0100
> Michael Niedermayer <michael at niedermayer.cc> wrote:
> 
> > On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 11:48:18AM +0100, Nicolas George wrote:
> > > Le septidi 27 ventôse, an CCXXV, Michael Niedermayer a écrit :  
> > > > Is this possible for every application using every framework ?  
> > > 
> > > Probably not. Not our problem.  
> > 
> > If your users problems are not your problem than you have the wrong
> > attitude to provide or design a service, API, lib, ... to users
> 
> This whole thing is idiotic. How are client applications dealing with
> transporting the AVCodecContext stream parameters over their layers?
> Why didn't you write code to serialize the AVStream's AVCodecContext
> into the first packet? Why do you hate your users (well those who need
> it) this much? Are you a monster?
> 
> Your argumentation goes like this:
> 1. invent a mechanism that everyone WTFs at
> 2. claim that someone needs it
> 3. if someone removes it, pretend there is a problem because of
>    imaginary people invented in 2
> 4. if you lose, accuse them of bad attitude etc.
> 
> Please stop.

please stop putting words in my mouth

please look at the quoted text above, i replied to

> > > > Is this possible for every application using every framework ?
> > >
> > > Probably not. Not our problem.

with

"If your users problems are not your problem than you have the wrong
 attitude to provide or design a service, API, lib, ... to users"

The chain of arguments you list and argue against has not occured

What has occured is that i asked if the suggested solution for users
after the API change is possible for everyone.
someone replied to this that its probably not
(i dont know if thats so but i tend to agree here)
and that its "Not our problem."
which is something i felt is the wrong attitude so i stated my oppinon
about that. I understand that this attitude is common, ive heared it
from many people over the years both inside FFmpeg and as well other
free software projects.

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